C. Jane and NieNie
April 11, 2012
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ramonarickettes said
Anyone been reading old Cjane's memoirs? We don't want her to think all the attention here is just for her saintly sister! She is really pushing that her family had a lot of money growing up. Except when she said there wasn't enough money to take 8 million siblings and cousins and grandmothers out to brunch for her baptism. But by the time she needed a bra, the Clarks were flush!

I tried to stop reading her crap cold turkey, yet it's so trainwreck-that-you-can't-turn-away-from that every few days I'll catch up just to laugh/cringe at how ridiculous it is. 

Obviously the whole life story series is getting annoying, but am I weird for feeling slightly more annoyed by her use of "this is my new life" in reference to picking an (I guess) upscale restaurant over a dingier one? I snark on Nie from time to time, but I feel like that's her phrase or whatever from her Mormon Messages video. Which, to me, is appropriate considering the accident and that aftermath. CJane using that to explain that materialism is doing what's right? Please.

April 11, 2012
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ramonarickettes said

Anyone been reading old Cjane's memoirs? We don't want her to think all the attention here is just for her saintly sister! She is really pushing that her family had a lot of money growing up. Except when she said there wasn't enough money to take 8 million siblings and cousins and grandmothers out to brunch for her baptism. But by the time she needed a bra, the Clarks were flush!

This is my first post-i have wanted to comment on so many things in this thread! I keep reading the memoirs just to torture myself. I find CJane to be so insufferable with the way she tries to write about common things so dramatically-some writers can pull this off but she certainly can't. No wonder she pulled the plug on writing a book-who the fuck would want to buy a book about a girl with the normal life doing normal things like buying a bra but retelling it in the most boring and dramatic way possible. A story like that written as humor would be appealing but reading the dramatic tale from the surprise shopping trip with her mom to being teased on the playground was so boring. Yes Courtney you are soooo special and ther only pubescent girl who ever had to go through that. She really needs to stop trying to be so profound.

I was cracking up that when she was being baptized at 8 her family could barely afford the nicer restaurant but by ten they were shoving bags from Nordstrom into the back of the Audi. Not just the car, the AUDI! So what that her sister wrote a book about surviiving a plane crash that changed her whole life? Courtney picked being an "Apple Butter Farms" girl-now that's what I call inspiring.

April 11, 2012
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bad mommy said
regular mormon here too, and i have had to stop reading her blog. between name dropping mitt romney every 5 posts, monthly family photo shoots each more elaborate than the last (really? a feather bed in the middle of the woods???), her damn memoir (is it really anything more than we've already seen/read on the blog?) ads in every post and sidebar, and her taking a professional photographer to her weekly prenatal appointments, i just can't anymore. i used to enjoy her blog, before the crash- when she'd write about how her kid fished a poop out of the toilet or how she had to lock them out in the backyard for a few minutes of peace and quiet… but now the materialism is just too much for me. she is so out of touch with reality, i think it's dangerous to her wellbeing. what would ever happen to her if she had to like, move to nebraska, with no anthro nearby and no fawning community and no college to speak at? i lived in provo for 7 years and attended byu, but this woman (and her sister who is incredibly self-centered) is just giving it all a bad name. but i do agree with the pp who mentioned the needs of members in highly populated mormon areas to compete with one another. it's a sad thing.

bad mommy said
regular mormon here too, and i have had to stop reading her blog. between name dropping mitt romney every 5 posts, monthly family photo shoots each more elaborate than the last (really? a feather bed in the middle of the woods???), her damn memoir (is it really anything more than we've already seen/read on the blog?) ads in every post and sidebar, and her taking a professional photographer to her weekly prenatal appointments, i just can't anymore. i used to enjoy her blog, before the crash- when she'd write about how her kid fished a poop out of the toilet or how she had to lock them out in the backyard for a few minutes of peace and quiet… but now the materialism is just too much for me. she is so out of touch with reality, i think it's dangerous to her wellbeing. what would ever happen to her if she had to like, move to nebraska, with no anthro nearby and no fawning community and no college to speak at? i lived in provo for 7 years and attended byu, but this woman (and her sister who is incredibly self-centered) is just giving it all a bad name. but i do agree with the pp who mentioned the needs of members in highly populated mormon areas to compete with one another. it's a sad thing.

I'm sure she worked with someone on her book who asked her tons of questions, then took her answers and wrote a grammatically correct (hello!) adult version. I'm betting Nienie could read the book (maybe) and probably wouldn't recognize half of what was written, or why.

April 11, 2012
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Jipcee said

bad mommy said 

regular mormon here too, and i have had to stop reading her blog. between name dropping mitt romney every 5 posts, monthly family photo shoots each more elaborate than the last (really? a feather bed in the middle of the woods???), her damn memoir (is it really anything more than we've already seen/read on the blog?) ads in every post and sidebar, and her taking a professional photographer to her weekly prenatal appointments, i just can't anymore. i used to enjoy her blog, before the crash- when she'd write about how her kid fished a poop out of the toilet or how she had to lock them out in the backyard for a few minutes of peace and quiet… but now the materialism is just too much for me. she is so out of touch with reality, i think it's dangerous to her wellbeing. what would ever happen to her if she had to like, move to nebraska, with no anthro nearby and no fawning community and no college to speak at? i lived in provo for 7 years and attended byu, but this woman (and her sister who is incredibly self-centered) is just giving it all a bad name. but i do agree with the pp who mentioned the needs of members in highly populated mormon areas to compete with one another. it's a sad thing.

I'm sure she worked with someone on her book who asked her tons of questions, then took her answers and wrote a grammatically correct (hello!) adult version. I'm betting Nienie could read the book (maybe) and probably wouldn't recognize half of what was written, or why.

Actually I found that her voice was pretty strong in the book. I was expecting something ghostwritten too, because her blog is so full of terrible spelling and grammar, and it's pretty obviously been HEAVILY proofed. But I found the writing style very much Nie's (which is to say, pretty simplistic and overly personal).

I am not a Mormon, nor am I religious or conservative at all, but I couldn't find any "sex scenes" that would make anyone uncomfortable. Not sure what CJane was talking about there. It's more like "kissing scenes that fade to black".

April 11, 2012
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I liked the book, probably better than the blog actually. I was struck by a few times, first, obviously how awful it all was. But also, she was raised in a very insular world, thus her difficulty adjusting to NJ. I don't get the feeling she even has lots of friends, it's mainly family, which is fine if she's happy.

 

She certainly has a gift for homemaking that I don't. 

I like reading her blog, but I don't agree w/ her  on many other levels. She probably wouldn't like me because I am a liberal with a messy house, whose daughter wears shirts with words.

April 11, 2012
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katbutt said 
I am not a Mormon, nor am I religious or conservative at all, but I couldn't find any "sex scenes" that would make anyone uncomfortable. Not sure what CJane was talking about there. It's more like "kissing scenes that fade to black".

Um … that IS a steamy Mormon sex scene. I mean, isn't that what happened to Bella before first having sex with Edward?? She blacked out and couldn't remember anything?? And I only know this because of THIS gem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oat_AnWWqZI And yup: I mentioned Twilight. Again.

Because it's my only other comparison for Mormon literature.

April 11, 2012
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Ha, Jennifer! Your comment made me laugh. 

This is my first post, too and there are lots of things I've wanted to comment on as well. I first started reading CJane right after Stephanie's accident, and I enjoyed her thoughtful updates. Then Nienie came back, and CJane announced that from then on the story would be Stephanie's to tell and there would therefore be no more Nie updates on CJane's blog. That all made sense to me, but I didn't think I'd be interested in anything CJane had to say about her own life. I continued to read, though, out of habit. Some of her posts were decent, others boring, and others just left me scratching my head. 

It didn't take too long for me to figure out that I found CJane annoying, but what I actually found more annoying were her readers' comments. If they weren't saying "Oh, you're just so hilarious!" in response to posts that didn't even seem like they were supposed to be funny, then they were jumping all over the slightest criticism with, "Oh my heck! Don't these people know that you can write whatever you want on YOUR blog???!!!" Remember that post she did in December of 09 that sounded like an infomercial? Oy. 

But then (and don't boo or hiss me, please) she started doing those vlogs and I (sorry) actually liked most of them. For the first time ever I felt like I "got" her sense of humor. I thought the vlog with her mother was funny, not awkward. It seemed obvious to me that she was poking fun at the recent criticism of her parenting, with the punchline being that CJane's own mother thinks she's a less than stellar mom. I am also 95% positive that most or all of that vlog was scripted. I also don't mind that she mocked readers in some of them. If I recall, the emails she targeted were pretty stupid. If it's fair game to criticize a blogger (and it is), then it's also fair game to mock a criticism that's purely mean or judgmental. IMO.

But then, she started writing her memoirs. Ick, ick, ick. I thought it was going to be semi-entertaining, but it's not. Jennifer's critique is spot on. Only rarely has she ever pulled off the feat of making mundane events seem profound. And she has not yet managed to do it even once, though, in this memoir series. I don't know if she's distracted, phoning it in, or what, but for all the hype (5-day countdown anyone?) it sure has been anti-climactic and mediocre so far…

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April 12, 2012
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ugh, and CJane's tweet about Nie's book proves that it's still all about Courtney:

 

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CJaneKendrick Apr 09, 10:40am via Web

Can we all agree that the best part of @nieniedialogues book is me in a pig costume? Those were some awesome coma-inducing chemicals."

April 12, 2012
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SmallTownGurl said

katbutt said 
I am not a Mormon, nor am I religious or conservative at all, but I couldn't find any "sex scenes" that would make anyone uncomfortable. Not sure what CJane was talking about there. It's more like "kissing scenes that fade to black".

Um … that IS a steamy Mormon sex scene. I mean, isn't that what happened to Bella before first having sex with Edward?? She blacked out and couldn't remember anything?? And I only know this because of THIS gem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oat_AnWWqZI And yup: I mentioned Twilight. Again.

Because it's my only other comparison for Mormon literature.

Haha, I stand corrected! Based on that Twilight standard (also my only Mormon literature comparison), Nie Nie's book is positively salacious!

April 12, 2012
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Hi A Box of Broken Crayons….glad you liked my comment! I too enjoyed CJanes updates on Stephanie but then stopped reading her after that because I thought she was too annoying. I never even gave her vlogs a try because I felt like her writing was bad enough to stomach. I like today's gem of a post:

 

"After writing yesterday's post I turned to Chup and said, "I haven't left our house since last August," which is partly true. I've gotten out of my house, but only for a couple outings here and there, groceries stores and a few concerts, but I haven't left my house for a new atmosphere, new air, new vistas. "

Awww poor Courtney. Umm Courtney…hate to break it to you but that's not "partially true" it's entirely false. Just because you haven't left your house for "new vistas" doesn't mean that you haven't left. She has three small children, does she even realize that people with a bunch of young kids might actually have to work full-time and never get to do half the things she does? She tries sooo hard to make her life more dramatic than that of a normal mother and she fails miserably.

But don't worry guys, CJane will be back Monday to start writing "the beginning of the hard times, the stories I haven't really told very many people, the episodes of me trying to figure out what me is." How will I ever get through the weekend with all the anticipation I have now?!? I'm just dying to hear about the struggles of a rich mormon girl!

April 12, 2012
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Jennifer said
"After writing yesterday's post I turned to Chup and said, "I haven't left our house since last August," which is partly true. I've gotten out of my house, but only for a couple outings here and there, groceries stores and a few concerts, but I haven't left my house for a new atmosphere, new air, new vistas. "

Awww poor Courtney. Umm Courtney…hate to break it to you but that's not "partially true" it's entirely false. Just because you haven't left your house for "new vistas" doesn't mean that you haven't left. She has three small children, does she even realize that people with a bunch of young kids might actually have to work full-time and never get to do half the things she does? She tries sooo hard to make her life more dramatic than that of a normal mother and she fails miserably.

Didn't she have a huge blow-out birthday party complete with a band performing (Folka Dots??? Why do I remember this?) in her Green Room?? What about the Roof Top concerts she attended? Restaurants she ate in and reviewed? Not good enough to be a "new atmosphere." She's making it sound like she's been a shut-in for the last 8 months. Just say you're going on a damn vacation. Spare your readers the drama, CJane.

 

CJaneKendrick Apr 09, 10:40am via Web

Can we all agree that the best part of @nieniedialogues book is me in a pig costume? Those were some awesome coma-inducing chemicals."

 

An entire family of narcissists who think everything they produce is gold.

April 12, 2012
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Didn't she have a huge blow-out birthday party complete with a band performing (Folka Dots??? Why do I remember this?) in her Green Room?? What about the Roof Top concerts she attended? Restaurants she ate in and reviewed? Not good enough to be a "new atmosphere." She's making it sound like she's been a shut-in for the last 8 months. Just say you're going on a damn vacation. Spare your readers the drama, CJane.

I can't figure out how to quote on my iPad but yes she did just have a birthday party at her house complete with a band, just like most women and mothers I know. I can't stand her retro house-not my style at all.

April 12, 2012
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What was the point of that video with "Dr. J"? Who cares. Ok, so she's getting another surgery, I hope it goes well. But what was the point of the boring-ass five minute long video about it? She could have written that in one sentence, and didn't we already know this?


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