Michael Arrington, the man responsible for trading a bag of money for TechCrunch, is a rich, white, middle aged man who enjoys tweeting at celebrities, protecting the earth, and fighting “evilness” on the intertubes. He is also an enormous blowhard who likes to tell people to shut up a lot.
The current target for Mike’s ire is all you whiney, unappreciative brats who are complaining about working:
Suddenly everyone’s complaining about how unfair things are in Silicon Valley. How hard everyone has to work so darn hard, and how some people don’t get venture capital or a nice sale to Facebook or Google even though lots of other people are getting those things…If you work at a startup and you think you’re working too hard and sacrificing too much, find a job somewhere else that will cater to your needs.
You plebes should stop whining and remember how VERY VERY IMPORTANT Silicon Valley is, and that your pathetic crybaby butt is lucky to be here!
You might be sad that you work long hours and that sometimes your boss yells at you when tensions run high. But you also know that there is nowhere on earth like Silicon Valley.
He then goes on to contemplate the armageddon that awaits if you sobbing coders don’t nut up and work 20 hour days LIKE A BOSS:
[N]ot too long from now people will be talking about maximum working hours, minimum numbers of engineers assigned to complete a given task. And, shudder, unionization of startup workers.
I really hope that doesn’t happen. If it does, all the really necessary people will just leave and do their thing somewhere else.
Work hard. Cry less. And realize you’re part of history.
Listen to the rich white man, kids: work will set you free! If you just stop whining and do your job you too can one day sell your mediocre drama farm/media property and retire, to spend your days posting screeds against those who still have to work for money. Sometimes at jobs they don’t really love, for long hours, for little ROI.
“Silicon Valley is an unfair place, say all the headlines. The CNN racism documentary was just one piece of this. Another are the cries from the press that Zynga would actually consider renegotiating contracts with highly compensated employees no longer pulling their weight. Expect more articles soon about the woes of being asked to work hard at a startup. People are working so hard, they’re crying themselves to sleep!”
UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE
I can’t even snark on this, I’m too mad. Basically he’s saying “racism LOLZ THAT’S LIFE. Blame your parents for not being white! Then just shut up and work!”
“But if deep down you know that you’re part of history, that the things you are building will be written about and thought about forever, then maybe after that good cry after a short sleep under your desk you’ll pull yourself together and remember. That you are a person in the Arena. A Pirate. That you are here to make a dent in the universe.”
Oh yes I agree. Tumblr is making a HUGE dent in the universe. Our great-great-great-great grandchildren will talk about the day Tumblr graced Mother Earth with its self-important social justice losers and Ryan Gosling memes.
I hate when people act as if the only problem facing young/poor people today is that they’re too lazy. Just call it for what it is: you want workers to put up with whatever crap management gives them without complaining, so you construct this whole narrative of how morally righteous it is to work multiple days without sleep and to sacrifice every other aspect of your life for a thankless task. And of course, if any of those workers feel taken advantage of they should just shut the fuck up and work because no one likes whiners. And if you’re unlucky enough to be a minority or a woman who wants to start a business, then tough shit that’s just the way the world works.
I’m totally on board with the Arrington hate now. Fuck this guy. FUCK. HIM.
In an economy where it is beaten into our heads that we should ‘just be grateful to have a job’ employers know they can make people work 20 hour days with a simple ‘I can replace you’. That Arrington’s response to people who may sometimes voice resentment at feeling forced to work themselves to exhaustion just to keep their job is ‘quit whining and get back to work’ truly shows his affluent, privileged attitude towards the proletariat of the tech world. He can kiss my ass with this entitled bullshit.
he is a complete and utter jerk. i’m so glad that techcrunch is over but it looks like his new blog is as insufferable as techcrunch was. his post about trying to lose weight read like a parody of his own writing.
Hear hear.
Standing ovation! Also I just want to add that I feel like I have read a bunch of rich white dudes lately talking about the value of basically working to death/having no life outside of work. It’s their way of trying to convince themselves that they really deserve all the riches they have acquired. First of all no you don’t, and secondly a lot of it is good luck so fuck you and quit pretending the world is a meritocracy and you are only on top because you worked so hard. I’m sure all the lawyers I see toiling at crap work temp jobs for low pay and no benefits are only there because they didn’t work hard enough. Ditto for pretty much anyone who works their ass off in the service economy. They obviously didn’t go to college and b-school and become I bankers because they are lazy. It has nothing to do with connections or privilege.
Fuck you again. I hate this fat fuck. Didn’t Asha bone him? Because EW.
LOL@ “You’re a pirate!” On my chain gang they tell us, “You’re a ROCKSTAR.”
Last I checked you can’t deposit either of these into a retirement account.
Oh, and I forgot all about this:
“It feels like we’re getting there. That not too long from now people will be talking about maximum working hours, minimum numbers of engineers assigned to complete a given task. And, shudder, unionization of startup workers.”
*gasp* UNIONIZATION. God forbid workers have any power and more of a say in their working conditions! I mean damn, they should just work 100+ hours a week for less than a pittance and thank their employer every single fucking day for the gift. THAT’S how you make a living in this country.
God forbid workers actually receive any rights or protection.
Yes we can’t have that. What next? Startup workers fleeing north of the Mason-Dixon? Why our whole economy would collapse! *eyeroll*
“But you also know that there is nowhere on earth like Silicon Valley.”
Derp, I had NO IDEA that NO OTHER PLACE ON EARTH was like Silicon Valley!!
They should be able to unionize. Nobody should be forced to be worked like an animal because “it’s their job.” I see people being taken advantage of like this throughout the technology field, it’s fucking ridiculous.
Thing is, there are companies developing life-changing technologies being developed in Silicon Valley and elsewhere, but Arrington has never worked at one, nor has he ever invested in one.
He should put his money where his mouth is. Otherwise he’s just spewing random bullshit.
Oh jesus. That first sentence is a nightmare. Scratch “being developed”.
If you worked harder your grammar would be better.
Oh god I can already tell if I don’t do 10 posts a day now you’re going to msg me all day going STOP CRYING START POSTING AND REMEMBER YOU’RE MAKING HISTORY!
YOU ARE PART OF SOMETHING PEOPLE WILL WRITE ABOUT AND TALK ABOUT FOR THE REMAINDER OF TIME! GET YOUR FAT LAZY CRYING ASS OUT FROM UNDER YOUR DESK AND POST! POST BITCH POST!
THERE’S NO CRYING IN BLOGGING!!!
Yup, that’s the part I found really bizarre. “If you work at a startup and you think you’re working too hard and sacrificing too much, find a job somewhere else that will cater to your needs.”…says the guy who is not an engineer and has not worked at a startup. Ohhhhkay.
Also, it’s clear this blowhard white guy wrote this article so other blowhard white guys can read it and pat themselves on the back. Because those engineers at startups whose eyeballs are peeling and haven’t seen their bedrooms for months? They aren’t taking 10 minutes out of their day to read what Michael Arrington thinks about them. They’re too busy debugging code and slamming energy drinks.
Lastly, Arrington seems REALLY protective of the meritocratic, utopian ideal of Silicon Valley even though he’s done nothing to contribute to it. Weak.
tl; dr
I’m not going to touch most of what Arrington wrote (yes, racism and sexism are rife in Silicon Valley, but it’s way too complicated for a sensible online exchange about it). But the fact is that everyone goes into start-ups knowing the deal: You probably won’t have much of a life outside of work, and you’ll eat at your desk, and you’re not going to get a lot of sleep. But you own a piece of that company, and if you truly believe that you’re creating a great product that will matter to people and will fuel your future, motivation isn’t hard to come by.
What makes it so hard to break out of the killing-yourself-with-work routine is the fact that founders and CEOs are working like this too, in many cases, so it’s not like you can even be resentful of the people at the top: Often, I’d tap out at 3AM and my boss, a co-founder, would keep going. (And I wasn’t even a developer, just a cake decorator on the marketing and PR side.) Sometimes, because half our team was in Russia with another of our co-founders, I had no choice but to do conference calls at insane hours. But it was an amazing team, and I loved (almost) every minute of it.
Point being: Don’t go work for just any old start-up. If you want regular hours and a life, maybe don’t go into start-ups at all. There are trade-offs in any industry you choose to work in, some of them more sucky than others.
Every start-up is different, and Silicon Valley is at once horrific and, yes, special. I love it and I HATE it. But the same thing is true in start-ups that is true in most industries: If you want any semblance of a life outside of the office, you have to take it. You might not feel comfortable leaving the office at 6 or 7, knowing that everyone else will be working till at least midnight. As long as your output doesn’t suffer, the hours won’t matter to management (in my experience). I was fortunate to work with one of the best teams I’ve ever encountered, and we did have a nice exit, but those long hours were worth it long before the acquisition. I left two years ago, totally burnt out on the start-up life, and don’t regret it for a second. Sometimes I miss the adrenaline and having such a close bond with my colleagues, but getting regular sleep, eating properly, and not having to go to industry events several nights per week is my personal preference.
That said, I’m an old person (34), and envy the grads fresh out of college who have seemingly endless reserves of energy, enthusiasm and tolerance for BS. I don’t hear many of them complaining, though.
You are no doubt a lovely person in every way, but I read your comment and all I hear is STOCKHOLM SYNDROME BLAH BLAH BLAH.
People are such immense suckers for the “Oh, it’s just our corporate culture, that’s how we do such amazing things, look, the founders do it too” in tech as though every other industry didn’t pull this shit in its day. The textile industry used to claim it would fall apart without child labor, too.
Yeah, there’s a borderline between “hard work” and “slave labor.”
just plain SLAVE LABOR. i didn’t mean to quote that like a pretentious douche. so fat, so sorry.
Yeah sorry but unless a rack is on fire my ass is out the door at 6pm. considering I usually get to work at 7am (I’m a morning person) I don’t appreciate getting the “eat shit” looks from the smug shits who think that being the last one to leave makes you a better worker/more dedicated to the job. That’s fine if it reinforces your sense of smugness but the rest of us have friends and a life to attend to.
As far as the kids that have been in the real world for 15 minutes pulling such hours, there’s a difference between paying your dues and being a Something To Prove asshole. I’ve worked at startups my entire career and somehow managed to get my work done in under 10 hours. Instead of telling people ‘that’s just how it is! you work 20 hour days! if you can’t hack indentured servitude on a project you ‘love’ then go work at a bank!’ maybe you should all learn how to get your work done so you can go home the same day of the week you arrived. How about that?
Alice, that was kind of my point: If you want a life outside of work while working at a start-up, you have to take it. There will ALWAYS be tons of work to do, whether you leave at 6 or not. People who brag about being “so busy” are often just shitty at time management.
I’d also add that few of the people calling themselves slaves even have kids. I said to my boss, who was a parent, “Who told you to have a start-up AND a baby?” Marriages are strained to the limit by start-ups, but it’s a conscious choice people make. Whether it’s a shitty one is on them, no one else.
Right, that’s what I was saying. *I* take it. I take it because by 6 pm I’ve already put in 11 hours and when I’m going into an office and working at a desk I’m really efficient, so I’m done with that day’s goals. I was just throwing in another perspective. But it doesn’t change the fact that Arrington is an obnoxious prick who is not an engineer and never had to do development grunt work for a startup, so his ranting about crybaby coders is coming from an entitled and irrelevant position.
You’re still taking the Stakhanovite attitude as something that is born out of necessity, rather than out of a combination of greed and neurosis. Lots of more important sectors of society are run by people who don’t spend the whole day at the office—advanced cancer research, for instance.
The big myth that work/life balance is incompatible with actually getting things done is toxic bullshit perpetuated by Robber Barons 2.0.
“The big myth that work/life balance is incompatible with actually getting things done is toxic bullshit perpetuated by Robber Barons 2.0.”
I didn’t say this, so…okay.
But there are lots of people who choose their work over their parental responsibilities and other non-work aspects of their life every day. I don’t have a kid, but I did it – and I did it to myself. I’m sure there are start-ups where people have bosses who outright order them to stay up for days on end in order to ship code – that wasn’t my experience*, nor was it the experience of those at my company. But if it were, I don’t think I’d take long to pack up my cube and go.
*Again, I wasn’t a developer. One of the things I loved about our team was that product development was integrated with marketing – we built what people told us they wanted, some stuff they didn’t even know they wanted, and incorporated feedback on an ongoing basis. So I probably got a greater reward than most non-developers would, seeing how my work had an impact on the end result.
I think that what you’re not understanding is that in many of these cases, it’s not some insidious, overbearing boss standing over everyone with a whip. It’s implied and ingrained within the corporate culture that you are somehow not doing your job if you aren’t putting in the crazy hours. Kind of how like, peer pressure to do drugs wasn’t your friends telling you they wouldn’t hang out with you or that you were a loser if you didn’t toke up, but the implied pressure that everyone is doing it so it must be okay.
“But there are lots of people who choose their work over their parental responsibilities and other non-work aspects of their life every day.”
Well sure, they are call “assholes” and “bad parents who should have never had families.”
I once knew a lady on the internet who made a lot of arguments about working hard and pulling yourself up by your bootstraps…. then she was convicted of laundering $2 million from her job.
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2009/11/post_60.html
That Girl, I think we’re vigorously agreeing. I understand it because I lived it, and I realized that NO ONE expected the kind of input from me that I expected of myself. I bought into the idea that this was part of the deal, non-negotiable, until I started hanging around with different people – all of whom had start-ups and families and who left the office at 6 to pick up their kids, who didn’t look at their phones when they were with their kids, that kind of thing. I hadn’t known it was an option to live like that and not be considered a slacker – it was scary (in an “I’m a total weenie and am scared people will be mad at me” way) to try it and see what happened. As it turned out, my sleepless nights were not required: our product still kicked ass, we got great investors, our company thrived.
Basically, Silicon Valley is a place rife with delusions of grandeur, and thinking that everything will fall apart unless you kill yourself working is part of that. It makes you feel like you matter and are “part of history”. But it’s not some conspiracy perpetuated by Ron Conway or some other dark overlord: It’s just cultural BS, as found in any other industry.
AC, I didn’t say that you said that work/life balance is incompatible with getting things done.
But it is what Arrington is arguing, and it’s what every douchebag Magical Startup CEO argues in support of their insistence that everyone work all the hours God sends.
I realized that NO ONE expected the kind of input from me that I expected of myself.
I think I see the issue here. You seem to have been fortunate in your supervisors, then. I know plenty of people for whom the old “If you don’t come in Saturday, don’t bother coming in Sunday” joke was no joke at all, because their managers and bosses were utter assholes.
Remember that Arrington called Sarah Lacy while she was in labor, for instance, expecting her to be available for work questions. IN LABOR. That’s the kind of shit I’m talking about.
Thing is, it’s not digging ditches, and I left. I went to work for a humanitarian organization for a year and saw actual slaves, and people who truly did have no choice but to do indescribably horrible things in order to put food on the table for their families. There’s a big difference between that and giving up a year or two of your social life in the hopes of vesting millions of dollars worth of stock, while being paid pretty decently (all the people I know in Silicon Valley have health insurance, multiple expensive gadgets, and other nice things).
Start-ups, for many people, are just an episode in a long life full of other experiences. There are huge non-financial pay-offs, too, but nobody’s held hostage. Silicon Valley is bad enough without being overrun by martyrs.
Anonymous Coward, I agree that working long hours at a start-up is not “slave labor.”
However, it’s exploitative, and it’s questionable whether it’s actually efficient, let alone necessary.
Just because other people have it worse doesn’t mean that people aren’t being taken advantage of in the start-up tech field.
I mean, you’re not questioning the fundamental gospel of the people expecting the biggest rewards from other people’s overwork.
Is it really necessary? If not necessary, is it the most efficient and productive way to reach required goals? If not the most efficient and productive way to reach the required goals, is there any reason to do it that way, other than providing bigger financial rewards to the folks in charge?
I think those are all valid questions to ask without anyone being a “martyr”.
As for the “Well, you could make millions of dollars” I am sure you know that the likelihood of making millions of dollars from a successful start-up is much smaller than the likelihood of making exactly jack point shit from a start-up that goes under.
Ok, sorry, BORDERLINE slave labor.
I guess I’m just sick of people not owning their decisions – in Silicon Valley and elsewhere. The bitching makes me wonder what these people thought they were getting into when they joined a start-up. It’s not a secret that people work crazy hours in the industry.
AC, it’s not a secret that people work “crazy hours” in startups.
But it’s also not demonstrable that startup management needs to have employees work crazy hours. (For instance, look at all the tech advancements that come out of government research labs and think tanks, in which you pretty much aren’t even allowed to work crazy hours even if you want to.)
And it’s not like there are gobs of other jobs to be had for the asking, either. Saying “people need to own their choices” seems like a copout to me. Not everyone has the luxury of being able to choose from multiple job offers, especially in today’s economy.
Anonymous Coward – I agree with you, but want to point out that Arrington’s article is a huge straw man argument.
He opens with the assertion that “everyone’s complaining about how unfair things are in Silicon Valley.” The generalization (everyone??!!!) is a red flag that’s he’s full of shit, and the anecdote he uses to illustrate this is factual and not whiny at all: “I slept at work again last night…It’s hard for someone to hold it against you when you miss a meeting because you’ve been at work so long that you’ve passed out from exhaustion.”
The examples he gives of people actually complaining about conditions in startups are from 1994. He updated the article to include two links to articles related to working conditions at Zynga, but those were not included in the original body of the article.
So, basically, Arrington is attempting to invent a trend so he can get pats on the backs from his readers.
Like I said, I really didn’t want to make my comments about Arrington and what he wrote – I left Silicon Valley in 2009 and none of the (dozens) of people I keep in touch with who are still at start-ups are complaining about the hours. The people who ARE complaining are ones whose companies got acquired by gigantic tech companies, so now they spend 90% of their time on corporate politics and 10% on product development.
Ok. It just enrages me when people are all, “people who bitch about the working conditions at startups are wrong because A, B, and C” and I’m like “WHO IS BITCHING? WHO?! SHOW ME THEM!”
I work outside of tech now, and I hear a lot of people complaining about having to come in at 8 on occasion, or doing work they consider beneath them. They’re all in their early 20s, pampered, over-privileged and have never worked for a company that didn’t provide free lattes all day. It’s not a tech thing, it’s an entitled crybabies raised by a-holes thing.
AC, I know people my own age (40s) who have had their parental leave canceled without notice or discussion, who missed a parent’s funeral because their manager forbid them to take three days off to fly there, who got fired after they wound up having a heart attack because of overwork and dehydration.
It’s not just pampered rich kids who think they’re too good to send a fax who have complaints about working conditions.
“Racism and sexism are rife in Silicon Valley, but it’s way too complicated for a sensible online exchange about it.”
So…
Silicon Valley created the online community. Racism and sexism are rife in Silicon Valley, but the online community, the thing they created, pretty much the entire reason they exist, can’t handle a discusion of those topics because it’s too complicated.
I would like everyone here to think about that for a minute.
Well, you could think about that, or you could think about what I said. Up to you.
“The online community” to me is something traditional media talks about when they are writing a story about the internet but don’t know how to explain the basement people.
I’m sure there are places online where a sensible exchange can be had about the racism and sexism of Silicon Valley; I’ve just yet to find them. Feel free to point me in the right direction.
Try typing http://getoffmyinternets.net/ into your browser.
Ok let’s do it here. I’ll start. I’m female with a family and I want to start a company in Silicon Valley. Is this crazy? Can I get decent funding? Will it be harder than a single guy founder? Is there perhaps some desire among VCs for diversity? Will they be hesitant because I will not work 24hr days? I mean, I work extremely hard, but I go home for dinner with my family every night. My company would have to have an at least somewhat family oriented culture.
Dia – consider asking your question on quora.com; a lot of Silicon Valley types (engineers, VCs and everyone in between) are on there.
From what I’ve seen, getting funding is mainly based on 1) your connections and 2) the strength of your business idea and engineering chops. If you aren’t an engineer, do whatever you can to recruit top engineering talent.. But this takes money…ah, what a lovely catch-22.
However, being a woman may give you a disadvantage in #1; it may be harder to be taken seriously, get meetings, etc.
Be wily. Be tenacious. And seriously, recruit engineers/programmers now.
We have sensible discussions about the racism and sexism of Silicon Valley here. There are great discussions about it at geekfeminism.org. I’ve seen good discussions of it at Tiger Beatdown and Jay Smooth’s blog and Restructure and Stubbornella and various other places on the Internet.
There’s great talk about this out there, trust.
My head just exploded.
How can you say tl;dr then go on to make a reply that is too fucking long?
The unconscious irony, it is strong with this one.
It was a warning – don’t read it if you don’t want to read something long. Pretty simple to understand, but I guess you didn’t get much sleep under your desk last night, so I’ll let it slide.
Usually, people usually put it at the end, then a summary. If it’s at the beginning, it usually implies that the person didn’t read what they’re replying to. I made the same assumption that dogsandmovies did.
If you’re writing isn’t clear, it’s really in poor taste to imply that it’s the fault of the reader, and not your writing, especially when more than one person interpreted it in a manner different than what you intended.
STFU and go away. You’re in PR. You’re not a coder. You don’t know everything and your blathering need to be right and have the last word is fucking BORING.
Shut up. Go away. You made your point 36 hours ago.
Jesus friggin Christmas….
How long until the next diatribe from this asshole? My guess is 30 minutes. Who wants to make this interesting?
If you want me to work harder, you are going to have to pay me more. PERIOD.
Fucking Scrooge 2.0.
Arrington’s primary source basically called him a douchebag in a blog post today:
http://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/11/watch-a-vc-use-my-name-to-sell-a-con/
NICE!
Wow, that is amazing.
Yeah, then Arrington RESPONDED on his stupid blog: http://uncrunched.com/2011/11/28/burnouts-vc-cons-and-slave-labor-a-marxian-drama/
Looks like he is continuing what he started at TC: using the internet as his platform to have pissing matches with anyone who disagrees with Captain Windbag McKnowitall. Seriously, has he ever had a job working 18 hour days for 37k a year because the market is saturated and the bubble burst, and there are almost no web dev jobs left in SoCal? Because employers know that in a certain job market, the average person is terrified of losing their job; and employers know they can hand them a midling salary and plenty of soft arming will squeeze 90 hour weeks out of them.
The dude was a lawyer who became a “founder”. He’s a fucking glorified upper management drone. I really don’t understand why anyone would consider him an authority on what the development pit crews of the world experience in their positions. From where he sits it’s a bunch of whiny 23 year olds who get free cappuccino and snacks so wtf are they complaining about?
Kind of like someone in Marketing trying to talk about what it’s like for everyone else in a startup.
Yes, based only on 12 years of working in start-ups (I started with one foot in development, one in content, but that was in Europe – my Silicon Valley experience was purely on the marketing and product development side, not coding). But thanks for being such a champ and humoring me, very big of you.
Yet, you still don’t know what it’s like to be a coder. It would be like my working in an office in a factory and pretending to know anything of what it’s really like for the laborers on the floor.
Nobody cares. Please tie your hands behind your back and go the fuck away.
Wow, the source really sounds like a reasonable person. Arrington is an even bigger asshole than I thought. No wonder he’s focused on making work the end-all be-all—he sure as shit has nothing to write home to mommy about in terms of success at any other thing but wringing a personal fortune out of the single most annoying subculture in tech since whatever asshole it was invented Pong.
It’s a win-win for Arrington to write pieces like this.
If people agree, then he’s successfully protecting his interests, and the interests of his VC buddies, by furthering the myth that it’s noble and necessary for startup grunts to work themselves to death.
If people disagree, he successfully stirs up controversy and fans the flames with follow-up pieces, thus garnering pageviews and entrenching his “influence” (barf) and reputation as a firebrand or maverick or whatever.
It’s the FOX News model. Say whatever you want and if people cry foul, then report on that controversy as well. And on and on.
Hey, it worked for him with TC. He’s gotta keep his name in the news somehow.
That made my day!
“What is true is that for a VC’s business model to work, it’s necessary for you to give up your life in order for him to become richer. Follow the fucking money. When a VC tells you what’s good for you, check your wallet, then count your fingers.”
This man speaks the truth.
“If you like the life but hate the company, start your own company. Join, I guess, the dark side. And remember, being broke is no excuse. Move back with your parents and get free food and rent. Learn how to code if you don’t already. Just make it work. Or don’t.”
I CAN’T ANYMORE. I can’t stand this “if you don’t like your job, just quit” bullshit. With the economy the way it is? How can you expect people to just leave a job even if they’re miserable? There are people in my family working jobs they hate because they had families to raise, etc. and for Arrington to just ignore all that and say “yeah you could just start your own company” just shows how privileged the asshole is. Move back with your parents? What the fuck is that shit? What if your parents don’t have space for you? What if they make you pay rent (mine would)? What if they’re dead? Also, what if you’re one of those women and minorities that are apparently such a rarity in SV and no one will fund you anyway? Then what, Arrington?
God this fucker makes me so damn angry.
Also the white, middle to upper middle class privilege this man has is out of fucking control. Ya know what? Not all of us have the opportunity to move in with parents, or family, to save up money. Some of us have parents living pay check to pay check, or a dead parents, or a who knows what parents. I mean, I’m rehashing what you said, but his statement enraged me!!
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Those ungrateful sans-culottes should have just STFU and been grateful to breath the same air as Marie Antoinette.